Why Pleasant Valley PKWY is the most f-d street in providence
(I need to get this off my chest, and this blog seems like a decent place to do it. It’s a little cycling related, since every time I ride, I have to ride on this street.)
I’ve slowly come to the realization that the street I live on, Pleasant Valley Pkwy, is the most ridiculous and f-ed up street in providence. And for those of you that live in providence, I’m sure you know what a bold claim that is.
Exhibit A: 2-way traffic on what should be a 1-way street
Pleasant Valley Pkwy (PVP) is a street divided by a little park and stream. It used to be one way on either side of that park. Google Maps still says that it is. However, there are clearly posted signs informing you that 2-way travel is, in fact permitted on either side of the park.
Exhibit B: Speed Limits
Technically, the speed limit on PVP is 15 mph. I have never seen someone drive that speed. I’ve never seen anyone (except maybe one or 2 people who were hopelessly lost – which happens easily around here) go less than 30. I once saw someone fly through the intersection of death (see below) at about 60, with a cop car stopped at the stop sign. needless to say he had more important things to do than to pull this guy over.
Exhibit C: Street Continuity
Providence drivers should be used to streets that stop and start inexplicably by now. A classic example would be Benevolent on the East Side. you’ll be walking down the street looking for a number, when the street dead-ends into a building. A Providence veteran will quickly realize that the street will probably pick up one block later on the other side of that building and walk around. It’s pretty easy to understand the logic of this, even if it creates headaches for anyone who hasn’t lived in Providence their whole lives. (It WOULD be the same street if that building weren’t there.) But PVP brings this concept to a whole new level. Peruse this map:
As you can see, PVP starts out as a large commecial highway, only to become Raymond one block later (which then becomes Oakland a block later). The block before it became PVP, it was De Pasquale, and the block before was Dean. So the same street has 4 different names in 4 blocks. Somewhat later, PVP begins again, but now has absolutely no relation (I can’t even see any kind of metaphysical relationship between the two halves of PVP) to the first section. They aren’t even going the same direction.
Exhibit D: The intersection of death
If that wasn’t enough to convince you that PVP is the stupidest street in Providence, this intersection should do the trick. Here’s a diagram:
Basically, all of the factors come to a head at this one intersection. PVP makes a hard right, but there is also a break in the park, w/ a stone bridge along the ends of the park sections. At this point, headed west on PVP, your options are to follow the road around to the right, cut across the bridge and turn onto the other side of PVP, cut across and continue on Justice St. All of those options are also open to people travelling west on the South side of the street. Coming east on Justice, you are also free to continue on either side of the parkway without yielding, or turn and head north on the northbound section of PVP. Surprisingly, I’ve only seen 2 accidents at this intersection. First, a car full of LaSalle Academy kids took the turn way too fast and smashed into a tree in the park, taking down the tree. Second, (I didn’t actually see this one), I returned from a few days out of town to find one of the sides of the stone bridge completely smashed to hell. I can only assume that accompanying car crash was quite a sight.


Khalid on 02 Mar 2009 at 12:51 pm #
Dude.
That was detailed.
Any plans to take it to the next city council meeting?
You should go get a degree in transportation planning!
urbania on 01 May 2009 at 7:54 pm #
You are so not alone, the residential part of the Parkway was intended to be part of a much larger longer plan, (like Boston’s VFW parkway) but the great depression and the ensuing obsession with the automobile age (route 6) bisected the earlier plan.
The neighbors of the area HATE this configuration and have actually began meeting to see if we can change the road to it’s original 1 way each way configuration.
give a shout at QAFelmhurstmountpleasant@gmail.com
Ride safe until then!
Joe on 02 May 2009 at 4:59 am #
This is great, I live on the Parkway & we just had a meeting with Councilman Soloman about this issue. He was really great &
John Nicholson from the City has already contacted me on this. Very fast for Providence. He thinks it’s a great idea , but said there’s people against it.
We’d like to get as many people working on this as possible.
Send a note to the above address & let’s make the Parkway what it was intended to be.
Joe
brent on 02 May 2009 at 6:26 am #
thanks for the replies! I remember someone coming around with a petition to make the street one-way again, which I signed. I’m not entirely convinced that will really help all that much, however. While that would eliminate some of the crazy crossing that occurs at the bridges, it might also just make people drive faster. As much as I hate them on other people’s streets, I wonder if speed bumps might help?
joe on 05 May 2009 at 7:13 am #
We also want a bike/jogging/walking lane on the park side.
I lived with speed bumps in Elmwood & they suck.
If people still speed,I’d rather speeding in one direction than two.
More stop signs are also needed to slow things. We’re trying to get a meeting together 5/13 with John Nicholson from the city. Who thinks it’s a great idea. Will keep you posted.
Joe
brent on 05 May 2009 at 7:23 am #
yeah, a bike/jogging lane would be excellent. especially since there isn’t a consistent sidewalk. I also hate speed bumps, I think the biggest problem is with people who use the street as a cut through, or as a faster option than chalkstone. I think if there were speed bumps I’d probably drive up to Moorland and take that across instead of the pkwy. If we put stop signs, that might have the same effect however. I mean there’s really no reason not to have stops for all directions at that bridge (intersection of death).
Joe on 05 May 2009 at 5:32 pm #
Hey Brent,
The meeting will be 5/13 7pm at 700 Smith St, Capital Ridge.
Bring everyone you know who wants a one way & the biking lane.
Let me know if you can make it & if you’ll bring anyone. I think the cutting through will be cut in half if it’s a one way.
Joe
joe on 11 May 2009 at 7:03 pm #
The meeting was changed until the 18th.
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